[Flashback]
John Kramer: I came to talk to you, Will, because I've found a treatment for my cancer that I think holds a lot of promise, but my requests for coverage have all been turned down. So I was hoping that maybe if I came and explained it to you, that you might be able to get that overturned for me.
William Easton: Well, the buck stops here, John. Fire away.
John Kramer: [hands him a magazine] This is a doctor in Norway. He's got a thirty to forty percent success rate with gene therapy. He injects what he calls suicide genes into cancerous tumor cells, then an inactive form of a toxic drug is administered and it...
William Easton: Yes, I'm familiar with the therapy you're talking about.
John Kramer: Right. And a new trial's starting. He's looking for new patients, and he seems to think that I'm the perfect candidate.
William Easton: John, if your primary physician, Dr. Gordon, thought you were a suitable candidate, he would have pursued it.
John Kramer: Dr. Gordon is a specialist, you know. He's making money on his specialty. He's not a thinker. I mean, the man has his hand on the doorknob half the time that I'm there.
William Easton: I'm going to be straight with you. At your age, and with the development of your cancer, it's simply not feasible for Umbrella Health--
John Kramer: Wait, wait, wait. What's unfeasible? By whose mathematical equation is this not feasible?
William Easton: It's policy, John. It's policy. And if you go outside the system to seek out this treatment, which has been deemed ineffective, you will be in breach of policy and dropped from coverage completely. I'm sorry.
John Kramer: [stands, then looks out at the "Dog Pit"] Did you know that in the Far East, people pay their doctors when they're healthy. When they're sick, they don't have to pay 'em. So basically, they end up paying for what they want, not what they don't want. We've got it all ass-backwards, here. [points to TV] These politicians, they say the same thing, over and over and over again. "Healthcare decisions should be made by doctors and their patients, not by the government." Well, now I know they're not made by doctors and their patients or the government. They're made by the ****in' insurance companies. [looks at William's fish tank] Piranha.
William Easton: John... please. If you do this, then you'll be on your own and the subsequent cost to you will be staggering.
John Kramer: Don't talk to me about money. I have money. This is about principle. You see, Will... this is my life we're talkin' about. You remember?
William Easton: What about Jill's life? How's she going to be taken care of when you're gone?
John Kramer: You let me worry about Jill.
William Easton: The type of cancer you have is malignant and inoperable.
John Kramer: That rolled off your tongue real smooth.
William Easton: Even if the treatment works, the cancer will return eventually. It's an unwinnable battle.
John Kramer: That was even smoother. As a matter of fact, that was downright slick. You think it's the living who will have ultimate judgement over you, because the dead will have no claim over your soul. But you may be mistaken.
John Kramer: I came to talk to you, Will, because I've found a treatment for my cancer that I think holds a lot of promise, but my requests for coverage have all been turned down. So I was hoping that maybe if I came and explained it to you, that you might be able to get that overturned for me.
William Easton: Well, the buck stops here, John. Fire away.
John Kramer: [hands him a magazine] This is a doctor in Norway. He's got a thirty to forty percent success rate with gene therapy. He injects what he calls suicide genes into cancerous tumor cells, then an inactive form of a toxic drug is administered and it...
William Easton: Yes, I'm familiar with the therapy you're talking about.
John Kramer: Right. And a new trial's starting. He's looking for new patients, and he seems to think that I'm the perfect candidate.
William Easton: John, if your primary physician, Dr. Gordon, thought you were a suitable candidate, he would have pursued it.
John Kramer: Dr. Gordon is a specialist, you know. He's making money on his specialty. He's not a thinker. I mean, the man has his hand on the doorknob half the time that I'm there.
William Easton: I'm going to be straight with you. At your age, and with the development of your cancer, it's simply not feasible for Umbrella Health--
John Kramer: Wait, wait, wait. What's unfeasible? By whose mathematical equation is this not feasible?
William Easton: It's policy, John. It's policy. And if you go outside the system to seek out this treatment, which has been deemed ineffective, you will be in breach of policy and dropped from coverage completely. I'm sorry.
John Kramer: [stands, then looks out at the "Dog Pit"] Did you know that in the Far East, people pay their doctors when they're healthy. When they're sick, they don't have to pay 'em. So basically, they end up paying for what they want, not what they don't want. We've got it all ass-backwards, here. [points to TV] These politicians, they say the same thing, over and over and over again. "Healthcare decisions should be made by doctors and their patients, not by the government." Well, now I know they're not made by doctors and their patients or the government. They're made by the ****in' insurance companies. [looks at William's fish tank] Piranha.
William Easton: John... please. If you do this, then you'll be on your own and the subsequent cost to you will be staggering.
John Kramer: Don't talk to me about money. I have money. This is about principle. You see, Will... this is my life we're talkin' about. You remember?
William Easton: What about Jill's life? How's she going to be taken care of when you're gone?
John Kramer: You let me worry about Jill.
William Easton: The type of cancer you have is malignant and inoperable.
John Kramer: That rolled off your tongue real smooth.
William Easton: Even if the treatment works, the cancer will return eventually. It's an unwinnable battle.
John Kramer: That was even smoother. As a matter of fact, that was downright slick. You think it's the living who will have ultimate judgement over you, because the dead will have no claim over your soul. But you may be mistaken.
[Flashback]
John Kramer: I came to talk to you, Will, because I've found a treatment for my cancer that I think holds a lot of promise, but my requests for coverage have all been turned down. So I was hoping that maybe if I came and explained it to you, that you might be able to get that overturned for me.
William Easton: Well, the buck stops here, John. Fire away.
John Kramer: [hands him a magazine] This is a doctor in Norway. He's got a thirty to forty percent success rate with gene therapy. He injects what he calls suicide genes into cancerous tumor cells, then an inactive form of a toxic drug is administered and it...
William Easton: Yes, I'm familiar with the therapy you're talking about.
John Kramer: Right. And a new trial's starting. He's looking for new patients, and he seems to think that I'm the perfect candidate.
William Easton: John, if your primary physician, Dr. Gordon, thought you were a suitable candidate, he would have pursued it.
John Kramer: Dr. Gordon is a specialist, you know. He's making money on his specialty. He's not a thinker. I mean, the man has his hand on the doorknob half the time that I'm there.
William Easton: I'm going to be straight with you. At your age, and with the development of your cancer, it's simply not feasible for Umbrella Health--
John Kramer: Wait, wait, wait. What's unfeasible? By whose mathematical equation is this not feasible?
William Easton: It's policy, John. It's policy. And if you go outside the system to seek out this treatment, which has been deemed ineffective, you will be in breach of policy and dropped from coverage completely. I'm sorry.
John Kramer: [stands, then looks out at the "Dog Pit"] Did you know that in the Far East, people pay their doctors when they're healthy. When they're sick, they don't have to pay 'em. So basically, they end up paying for what they want, not what they don't want. We've got it all ass-backwards, here. [points to TV] These politicians, they say the same thing, over and over and over again. "Healthcare decisions should be made by doctors and their patients, not by the government." Well, now I know they're not made by doctors and their patients or the government. They're made by the ****in' insurance companies. [looks at William's fish tank] Piranha.
William Easton: John... please. If you do this, then you'll be on your own and the subsequent cost to you will be staggering.
John Kramer: Don't talk to me about money. I have money. This is about principle. You see, Will... this is my life we're talkin' about. You remember?
William Easton: What about Jill's life? How's she going to be taken care of when you're gone?
John Kramer: You let me worry about Jill.
William Easton: The type of cancer you have is malignant and inoperable.
John Kramer: That rolled off your tongue real smooth.
William Easton: Even if the treatment works, the cancer will return eventually. It's an unwinnable battle.
John Kramer: That was even smoother. As a matter of fact, that was downright slick. You think it's the living who will have ultimate judgement over you, because the dead will have no claim over your soul. But you may be mistaken.
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