P.L. Travers
Come to change my mind, haven't you? Beat me into submission?
Walt Disney
No, no. I've come because you misjudge me.
P.L. Travers
How do I misjudge you?
Walt Disney
You look at me and you see some kind of Hollywood King Midas. You think I've built an empire and I want your Mary Poppins as just another brick in my kingdom.
P.L. Travers
And don't you?
Walt Disney
Now, if that was all it was, would I have suckered up to a cranky, stubborn dame like you for twenty years? No, I would have saved myself an ulcer. No, you, uh, you expected me to disappoint you, so you made sure I did. Well, I think life disappoints you, Mrs. Travers. I think it's done that a lot, and I think Mary Poppins is the only person in your life who hasn't.
P.L. Travers
Mary Poppins isn't real.
Walt Disney
That's not true. No, no, no, no. She was as real as can be to my daughters, and to thousands of other children - adults, too. She's been there as a nighttime comfort to a heck of a lot of people.
P.L. Travers
Well, where is she when I need her, hm? I open the door for Mary Poppins, and who should be standing there but Walt Disney?
Walt Disney
Mrs. Travers, I'm sorry. I hoped this would've been a magical experience for you and for all of us, but I let you down. And in doing so, I've broken a 20-year-old promise I made to my daughters. I've been racking my brain, trying to figure out why this has been so hard for you. And I... well... you see, I have my own Mr. Banks. Mine had a mustache.
P.L. Travers
So not true that Disney created man in his own image?
Walt Disney
[chuckles]
No, no. But it is true that you created yourself, in someone else's, yes? Have you ever been to Kansas City, Mrs. Travers? Do you know Missouri at all?
P.L. Travers
I can't say I do.
Walt Disney
Well, it's mighty cold there in the winters. Bitter cold. And my dad, Elias Disney, he owned a newspaper delivery route there. A thousand papers, twice daily; a morning and an evening edition. And Dad was a tough businessman. He was a "save a penny any way you can" type of fella, so he wouldn't employ delivery boys. No, no, no... he used me and my big brother Roy. I was eight back then, just eight years old. And, like I said, winters are harsh, and Old Elias, he didn't believe in new shoes until the old ones were worn through. And honestly, Mrs. Travers, the snowdrifts, sometimes they were up over my head, and we'd push through that snow like it was molasses. The cold and wet seeping through our clothes and our shoes. Skin peeling from our faces. Sometimes I'd find myself sunk down in that snow, just waking up because I must have passed out or something, I don't know. And then, well, it was time for school and I was too cold and wet to figure out equations and things. And then, well, it was right back out in the snow again to get home just before dark. Mother would feed us dinner, and then it was time to go right back out and do it again for the evening edition. "You'd best be quick there, Walt. You'd better get those newspapers up on that porch and under that storm door. Poppa's gonna lose his temper again and show you the buckle end of his belt, boy". [Travers looks noticeably unsettled by his story] I don't tell you this to make you sad, Mrs. Travers. I don't. I love my life, I think it's a miracle. And I loved my dad. He was a wonderful man. But rare is the day when I don't think about that eight-year-old boy delivering newspapers in the snow and old Elias Disney with that strap in his fist. And I am just so tired, Mrs. Travers. I'm tired of remembering it that way. Aren't you tired, too, Mrs. Travers? Now we all have our sad tales, but don't you want to finish the story? Let it all go and have a life that isn't dictated by the past? It's not the children she comes to save. It's their father. It's your father... Travers Goff.
P.L. Travers
I don't know what you think you know about me, Walter...
Walt Disney
You must have loved and admired him a lot to take his name. It's him this is all about, isn't it? All of it, everything. Forgiveness, Mrs. Travers, it's what I learned from your books.
P.L. Travers
I don't have to forgive my father. He was a wonderful man.
Walt Disney
No... you need to forgive Helen Goff. Life is a harsh sentence to lay down for yourself. Give her to me, Mrs. Travers. Trust me with your precious Mary Poppins. I won't disappoint you. I swear every time a person walks into a movie house, from Leicester Square to Kansas City, they will see George Banks being saved. They will love him and his kids. They will weep for his cares. They will wring their hands when he loses his job, and when he flies that kite... Oh, Mrs. Travers, they will rejoice. They will sing. In movie houses all over the world, in the eyes and heads of my kids and other kids, and mothers and fathers for generations to come, George Banks will be honored. George Banks will be redeemed. George Banks, and all that he stands for, will be saved. Now maybe not in life, but in imagination. Because that's what we storytellers do. We restore order with imagination. We instill hope again and again and again. So trust me, Mrs. Travers. Let me prove it to you. I give you, my word.
Ralph
It's been a real pleasure driving you, Mrs. Travers.
P.L. Travers
No one likes a fibber.
Ralph
Oh, no, no. I really have enjoyed it. I didn't know who you were at first. And then, guess what?
P.L. Travers
You found out?
Ralph
Well, I was telling my daughter all about my day and how I'm driving this nice writer lady, Mrs. Travers, for Mr. Disney, and, uh...
P.L. Travers
And?
Ralph
And... [fetches a copy of Mary Poppins from the car] ...she made me go to her bedroom and bring her this. I can't stop reading it, you know. I'm very slow, mind you, so...
P.L. Travers
Would you like me to sign it?
Ralph
Would you?
P.L. Travers
I'd be honored. [taking the book] Let me see, now. [writing] "To Jane, and her dearest father..." I've just this moment realized I don't know your name.
Ralph
Ralph.
P.L. Travers
Pamela. You're the only American I've ever liked, Ralph. [finishes signing]
Ralph
Oh...Well, may I ask why?
P.L. Travers
No. [hands him back the book] Now, take this. [hands him a sheet of paper]
Ralph
[reading]
Albert Einstein, van Gogh, Roosevelt, Frida Kaylo-
P.L. Travers
Kahlo.
Ralph
Kahlo? What is this?
P.L. Travers
They all had difficulties. Jane can do anything that anyone else can do. Do you understand? [Ralph smiles and nods and she starts to walk away] Oh, I almost forgot. Turn it around.
Ralph
Walt Disney.
P.L. Travers
Hyperactive behavior and deficiencies in concentration. It explains everything.
Ralph
Thank you, Mrs. Travers.
RS Richard Sherman
[singing and playing the piano]
Room here for everyone / Gather around / The constable's "responstible"! / Now how does that sound?
P.L. Travers
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no! [Richard stops playing] "Responstible" is not a word.
RS Richard Sherman
Uh, we made it up.
P.L. Travers
Well, un-make it up. [Richard hides the music note sheet of "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"]
Walt Disney
[at his favorite carousel in Disneyland]
There's no greater joy than that seen through the eyes of a child, and there's a little bit of a child in all of us.
P.L. Travers
Maybe in you, Mr. Disney, but certainly not in me.
Walt Disney
Get on the horse, Pamela.
Walt Disney
[while riding on one of the horses]
The boys have had an idea for your Mr. Banks. I think it'll make you happy.
P.L. Travers
You brought me all the way out here to tell me that?
Walt Disney
No. I brought you all the way out here for monetary gain. Had a wager with the boys that I couldn't get you on a ride. I just won 20 bucks!
Walt Disney
Please, sit down.
P.L. Travers
[sternly]
I shall not sit in the seat of a trickster, a fraudster, a sneak!
Walt Disney
Pamela...
P.L. Travers
Mrs. Travers, please!
Walt Disney
[sighs]
Mrs. Travers, what has you so upset now?
P.L. Travers
Penguins! Penguins have very much upset me, Mr. Disney. Animated, dancing penguins! Now, you have seduced me with the music, Mr. Disney. Yes, you have. Those Sherman boys have quite turned my head. But I shall NOT be moved on the matter of cartoons, sir. Not...One...Inch!
Walt Disney
It is a sequence.
P.L. Travers
[walks closer to Walt’s deck]
You promised me... You PROMISED me that this film would not be an animation!
Walt Disney
We can't make the picture without the color red. The film is set in London, for Pete's sake!
P.L. Travers
And?
Walt Disney
Well, there's buses, mailboxes, guards’ uniforms and things. Heck, even the English flag.
P.L. Travers
I understand your predicament, Mr. Disney. I do. It's just… I don't know what it is, I'm suddenly very anti-red. I shan't be wearing it ever again.
Walt Disney
Is this a test, Pamela? Are you requiring proof as to how much I want to make you happy, so we can create this beautiful thing together?
P.L. Travers
I took you at your word, Mr. Disney, and it seems my first stipulation has been denied. There will be many more. So perhaps we should just call it quits and I... [takes out the rights] should hand you back these.
Walt Disney
[pause] [faces the crew]
All right. No red in the picture.