A scene from Nuremberg 2025
Douglas Kelley
[After a trial hearing, at Göring's cell, Douglas is horrified, disgusted, and furious over what he has seen from the video footage of the atrocities committed at the concentration camps]

How is that possible? [short pause, he stands up] What I just saw. How is it possible?

Hermann Göring
[short pause]

Himmler.

Douglas Kelley

Himmler wasn't second in command. You were. 1200 camps? What am I supposed to believe that you didn't know?

Hermann Göring

Anyone can fake an atrocity.

Douglas Kelley

So you're saying the filming was a fake, that's your defence?

Hermann Göring

What would you have me say?

Douglas Kelley

About the truth for once!

Hermann Göring

Why? So you can run and tell Jackson. My friend, your hypocrisy is stunning.

Douglas Kelley

My hypocrisy?

Hermann Göring

You think American bullets and bombs don't kill people?! You vaporised 150,000 Japanese at the touch of a button. And you presume to stand in judgment on me for war crimes.

Douglas Kelley

We had every right to defend ourselves.

Hermann Göring

How do you defend yourself on someone else's soil?!

Douglas Kelley

There's a difference between us bombing war factories and civilians dying as collateral damage! And you building 1200 human slaughter houses designed to exterminate an entire race! And you know it!!

Hermann Göring

What do you think war is?!

Douglas Kelley
[pause]

Not what I saw today.

Hermann Göring

What do you think the Russian's do to German prisoners of war?! You have your freedom and I am a prisoner because you won and we lost, not because you are morally superior! This trial will be a farce in 15 years. Great conquerors are not thought of as murderers, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great...

Douglas Kelley

You're not Alexander the Great! You are a fat man in a cell. And you knew.

Hermann Göring
[pause]

I have made a mistake. You are not destined for more. You will have an unhappy life, I think. It will all be overshadowed by this. By the time spent with me. You will write your volumes trying to relive it. The one moment in your life when you actually stood with greatness.

Douglas Kelley
[short pause]

You think you're a great man? You think that that's your legacy?

Hermann Göring

At least I will have one. You will leave no mark on this world. I am the book! You are merely a footnote.

Douglas Kelley
[pause]

They're gonna kill you! They're gonna hang you by the neck till you piss yourself and die. Your wife will be a widow. Your daughter will be an orphan. And you will have done that to yourself. [Kelley knocks on the cell door to be let out, door opens. He glares at Göring and leaves]

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