TV show's guest: I believe that there's a sort of force, an unseen malevolent presence that's all around us every day. And it determines when we live and die. And some people call this force the devil, but I think the whole religious thing is... So I prefer to call it Death itself. ... And that's what I want people to understand, that Death has this grand design that we all fit into. ... The only way to survive is to look beneath the visible world, because in the end, no one can escape death.
TV show's guest: I believe that there's a sort of force, an unseen malevolent presence that's all around us every day. And it determines when we live and die. And some people call this force the devil, but I think the whole religious thing is... So I prefer to call it Death itself. ... And that's what I want people to understand, that Death has this grand design that we all fit into. ... The only way to survive is to look beneath the visible world, because in the end, no one can escape death.
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